RW4 & FastCopy V01.01.049 Software Update (ID 46 cloning)

[lockdecoders]

on the keyline decryptor manual the procedure is the same as you has described, but is highlighted that on renault vehicles the procedure is that I've post before.

on KeyCrypt/AD900 manual there's a lack of info.

Do you actually have a copy of the Key-Crypt Pro instruction manual and have you read it completely. I dont think you have. It is very intensive and we have found very little wrong with it.

You obviously work for Silca.

We have done dozens of vehicles and have not found this fault you describe.

[Keydoctor]

How will the battery head keys work in systems that 'Recharge' the battery when the key is in the ignition?

Iknow that with an EH2 head in a 2007+ Transit the battery head is drained within 24hrs.

There are now many vehicles that incorporate this system such as Landrover, BMW e.t.c so effectively isnt a battery head useless on these applications?

[grahamparker]

Im sure i am not the only one who noticed you didn't answer the

"do you work for slica question"

as i have had the same thoughts.

[NPXT]

It depend on the type of charger method ,To charge the Remote battery (the transponder work without power battery) is sufficent that the field will be switch on and nothing other command from ECU should be send to the Key , So if you are in this condition and Silca's engeneering has been smart , the key after responce of Authentication for start engine will be in stand by to safety the battery life .
But if during the normal drive the ECU continuously send command (Read & Write) the battery Key will be flat quickly .
I'm looking forward to receiving answer from D-power if Silca has been smart

[D-Power]

Do you actually have a copy of the Key-Crypt Pro instruction manual and have you read it completely. I dont think you have. It is very intensive and we have found very little wrong with it.

You obviously work for Silca.

We have done dozens of vehicles and have not found this fault you describe.

The manual as you has posted some time ago is available here: http://www.downloads-lockdecoders.com/K ... loning.pdf

I've readed it carefully, and I repeat in your manual the special indication about Renault is not present.
On some cases using TK60 for 3 times consecutively during learning procedure it can happen that the ECU freezes.
So read the Keyline decryptor manual and look what Keyline says about Renault.

I want to point out that Renault possible issue isn't a problem of Key-Crypt Pro, it's a Renault *problem*, so if Keyline that is the producer of TK60 and the inventor of the procedure says that on some vehicles the procedure is a bit different, I' don't understand why on machines that uses the same keys and procedure, it's not reported the warning.

About Silca, it's not a secret that I work for Silca, that's the first thing that I've said in my presentation, and I've repeated it many times, so I think that I've done a little favor telling to a competitor a potential problem with the using of TK60 on Renault vehicles.

[D-Power]

It depend on the type of charger method ,To charge the Remote battery (the transponder work without power battery) is sufficent that the field will be switch on and nothing other command from ECU should be send to the Key , So if you are in this condition and Silca's engeneering has been smart , the key after responce of Authentication for start engine will be in stand by to safety the battery life .
But if during the normal drive the ECU continuously send command (Read & Write) the battery Key will be flat quickly .
I'm looking forward to receiving answer from D-power if Silca has been smart

As you sayd, to recharge the battery is sufficent that the field will be switch on and nothing other command from ECU should be send to the Key.

There's only 1 brand (BMW) for the moment that writes and reads continuosly the key during normal drive, we are working on to understand not only if there's problems about battery, but also about logics.

[grahamparker]

Im sure i am not the only one who noticed you didn't answer the

"do you work for slica question"

as i have had the same thoughts.

[D-Power]

Im sure i am not the only one who noticed you didn't answer the

"do you work for slica question"

as i have had the same thoughts.

I work for Silca

[golfmad]

D-Power, can you post link to Keyline Decryptor manual with procedure for Renault ???

golfmad

[D-Power]

D-Power, can you post link to Keyline Decryptor manual with procedure for Renault ???

golfmad

I can't I've it only on paper and in Italian

[NPXT]

this is the instruction of decryptor that i have find .
In red text as D-power said is there a important note regarding Renault.

[lockdecoders]

We have tested this and cannot find this fault, But better to be safe and we have modified our instructions to follow these steps from Keyline.

[grahamparker]

Got my P-box yesterday and have already cut and programmed the 5 supplied heads,yes i know they
will only work for some vehicles that dont need remote entry or have alarms fitted but 4 of these
have gone to garages who are selling the vehicle on and as long as the key works,they are more than
happy.
Hope i can get additional heads soon as there doesnt seem to be any uk stock as yet.
Also no blades either.

[thekeyvan]

Got my P-box yesterday and have already cut and programmed the 5 supplied heads,yes i know they
will only work for some vehicles that dont need remote entry or have alarms fitted but 4 of these
have gone to garages who are selling the vehicle on and as long as the key works,they are more than
happy.
Hope i can get additional heads soon as there doesnt seem to be any uk stock as yet.
Also no blades either.

rather you than me i will stick to doing the real keys diagnostically.

craig

[lock&quay]

I have the RW4 & as I have about £2000 worth of blades I,m looking at the Sila ID46 box ,
I would just like to get something staight about this alarm stuff.I have a Nissan Primastar ,if I lock the van manualy with the key & unlock it with the key the alarm is not set of .Is this the same if using a Sica cloned key or would it set off the alarm regardless until put in the ignition?

[thekeyvan]

I have the RW4 & as I have about £2000 worth of blades I,m looking at the Sila ID46 box ,
I would just like to get something staight about this alarm stuff.I have a Nissan Primastar ,if I lock the van manualy with the key & unlock it with the key the alarm is not set of .Is this the same if using a Sica cloned key or would it set off the alarm regardless until put in the ignition?

the alarm should sound when you lock the car with the original key manualy leave it locked for about 3 minutes then unlock manualy with the original key alarm will sound as it should set automaticaly 2 minutes after locking.

craig

[lock&quay]

On my van if I lock the van with the remote & then unlock with the key the alarm will go off .If i lock with the key & unlock with the key it dosn,t go off?
I would like to know if an alarmed car is locked with the cloned key & unlocked with the cloned key will the alarm still go off .
Plus as pointed out that you only have 10 - 20 seconds to get the key in the ignition, what happens if you don,t make it in time will it turn it off when iserted ?
& can you turn these alarms off completly?